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The Ultimate RPG Guide 2012
Posted: 03.08.2012 10:36 by PRBot Comments: 35
What is an RPG? Wow, what a question. Aside from standing for Rocket-Propelled Grenade Role-Playing Game it can be quite difficult to identify an RPG these days, given how diluted the concept has become alongside the filtering of the genre’s concepts into pretty much every other title out there. Once upon a time any game with levelling could have been called an RPG, so shall we count Call of Duty (answer: no)?

There are basically, all-things-boiled-down, three types of “proper” RPG these days (although what game fits into which is another matter) if you don’t count MMOs – which we’re not going to. Action RPGs, where story and character take a back-seat to just killing things. Japanese RPGs, usually with turn-based combat and fixed characters. Finally Western RPGs, with customisable characters, choices, and more in-depth combat. There are a lot these days though, and every one will appeal to a different type of player. So we thought it’d be a fine time to do the Ultimate Guide to every recent RPG (c’mon, you know to buy Planescape: Torment already whoever you are), in terms of every specific player they would appeal to. That’s a lot, so let’s get started!

Gamer Type: THE EXPLORER

Best Game: THE ELDER SCROLLS V: SKYRIM

Type of RPG: Western

The Explorer doesn’t value plot, character, or even gripping combat. They simply want to be plopped into a world unlike our own and given free rein over what they see and do. Bethesda specialise in RPGs for this gamer type, and Skyrim is the most special of the lot. About ten square miles of mountainous dragon-infested terrain to seek out, filled with bustling towns, a quest on every corner, secret vampire castles and flowers to pick. For those who value a compass and map more than a fancy swordfighting style, this is the one to go for.

Alternatives: Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion, Fallout 3


Gamer Type: THE HACK-N-SLASH EXPLORER

Best Game: KINGDOMS OF AMALUR: RECKONING

Type of RPG: Western

It’s not all about exploring, you know. Sure it’s fun having a big wide world to spend hours in, but if there’s not loads of things to kill in a variety of amusing ways what’s the point? Amalur provides. The Faelands may not be as expansive or believable as Skyrim or Tamriel, but makes up for it with some of the most entertaining hack-n-slash gameplay ever. Big swords, little swords, magic swords, fiery spinning ring swords, they’re all here. Somewhere between God of War and The Elder Scrolls lies Reckoning, and the Hack-N-Slash-N-Explorer will feel at home here.

Alternatives: Dragon’s Dogma, The Witcher 2


Gamer Type: THE APOCALYPTIC SURVIVOR/EXPLORER

Best Game: FALLOUT 3/NEW VEGAS

Type of RPG: Western

Did I mention Bethesda did the best exploring titles? If you don’t like the sound of trekking around some made up fantasy land and instead prefer a nuke-blasted Washington or Las Vegas, then Fallout is the series for you. All the exploring fun of Skyrim with extra VATS, super mutants and radscorpions. And guns.

Alternatives: Wasteland 2, when it’s out


Gamer Type: THE CHOOSE-YOUR-OWN-ADVENTURER

Best Game: THE WITCHER 2: ASSASSINS OF KINGS

Type of RPG: Western

Choose-Your-Own-Adventure books would give you a variety of choices as you progressed through the story, and you would have to live with the consequences. If you value choice above all else in your RPG, you may not get the best story – but dammit, it’ll be your story. CD Projekt are to this type what Bethesda are to the Explorer, and the main game CYOA fans need in their Summer Stocking is The Witcher 2. Every decision can have dramatic consequences, even down to what side of a war you end up on. Choose wisely.

Alternatives: The Witcher, Deus Ex series


Gamer Type: CYBERPUNK CHOOSE-YOUR-OWN-ADVENTURER

Best Game: DEUS EX: HUMAN REVOLUTION

Type of RPG: Western

Of course not all CYOA fans crave pointy ears, magic, medievalism and shrubbery. Some are after guns, sunglasses at night, cold machinery, and baggy coats that make us look bigger than we really are. The Deus Ex series offers the very best in choicey RPGness without any of that sword nonsense (unless they’re laser swords or built-into-the-arm stabbing weapons). Human Revolution furthermore offers more in the way of actual gameplay choices than storyline, although there are plenty of moments that have consequences later on.

Alternatives: System Shock 2, Cyberpunk (when it’s out)


Gamer Type: ESPIONAGE CHOOSE-YOUR-OWN-ADVENTURER

Best Game: ALPHA PROTOCOL

Type of RPG: Western

Then again, maybe sunglasses and perpetual orangey twilight aren’t for you? What you really want is to roleplay James Bond, and decide whether it’s Roger Moore, Daniel Craig or (god help you) George Lazenby. Activision’s FPS titles don’t offer anywhere near enough depth, so where do you go? Answer: Obsidian’s over-ambitious spy thriller Alpha Protocol. Yes, it’s as buggy as a bag of bugs and as unfinished as Unfinished Tales (what an apt title, Tolkien), but it’s also the place to go to play the super-spy of your choice.

Alternatives: Deus Ex series


Gamer Type: THE DIABLO FAN

Best Game: DIABLO III

Type of RPG: Action

Well, who else is going to play Diablo III? Who is it made for most of all? The fans of the previous Diablo games of course. If you’re a Diablo fan, the next Diablo is just what you’re after!

Alternatives: Diablo, Diablo II


Gamer Type: THE OFFLINE DIABLO FAN

Best Game: TORCHLIGHT II

Type of RPG: Action

Heh. Okay, it’s not out just yet, but I have every confidence Torchlight II will be a great Diablo-style game without the always-online-except-whoops-Error 37 shenanigans of Blizzard. If you don’t want to play a single-player game with all the disadvantages of an MMO and ten times the power not to let you in at all, Torchlight II is what you’re after. Or the first game, whatever.

Alternatives: Torchlight, Diablo, Diablo II, Hellgate London


Gamer Type: THE FANTASY EPIC FAN

Best Game: DRAGON AGE: ORIGINS

Type of RPG: Western

If ever two words were meant to go together, it’s “epic” and “fantasy”. Giant conflicts between good and evil with the fate of the world hanging in the balance, Lord of the Rings has a lot to answer for when it comes to expectations. There are some pretty epic games out there (like Gears of War, heh), but none in fantasy land match the scale of Dragon Age: Origins. It puts you right in the centre of a gigantic war, the Blight of Ferelden, and only you can unite the factions to stave off the Darkspawn. What’s not to get excited about?!

Alternatives: Baldur’s Gate, The Witcher 2


Gamer Type: THE SCI-FI EPIC FAN

Best Game: MASS EFFECT TRILOGY

Type of RPG: Western/Action

But of course not everyone likes fantasy, remember? Bioware make the best epics around, even when they’re doing Sonic The Hedgehog, so it’s natural to look to them for a sci-fi epic too. Even by their standards though, Mass Effect is something special, a sci-fi trilogy with the fate of the entire galaxy on the line. Yes it’s more of a Talkie-Shooter than an RPG, and the ending makes little sense, but it’s a hell of a ride.

Alternatives: Knights of the Old Republic I-II, the older Phantasy Stars, Star Ocean


Gamer Type: THE STAR WARS FAN

Best Game: KNIGHTS OF THE OLD REPUBLIC

Type of RPG: Western

There is, however, a very specific set within the Sci-Fi Epic fandom that craves just one series: Star Wars. Fortunately Bioware cater for them too, with the ageing but still incredible Knights of the Old Republic. Jedi Vs Sith on a grand scale, with a similarly great (if typically for Obsidian, unfinished) sequel. KOTOR3 finally arrived this year… but was unfortunately an MMO. Oh well.

Alternatives: Well, Mass Effect was clearly influenced by it


Gamer Type: THE GAMER WHO WANTS MORE STORY THAN DIABLO, BUT MORE COMBAT THAN DRAGON AGE

Best Game: DUNGEON SIEGE III

Type of RPG: Action

Yep, RPGs even cater for extreme niches. Yes, Diablo III had a big story, but how many people cared? Dungeon Siege III tries to fill the gap between Western and Action RPGs, hack-and-slash action and an interesting fantasy world, with moderate success admittedly… but hey, it’s fun, engaging, and the story might well get to you. Although hearing “Jeyne Kassynder” yet again might change my mind.

Alternatives: Lord of the Rings: War in the North, Neverwinter Nights


Gamer Type: THE LORD OF THE RINGS HACK-N-SLASHER

Best Game: LORD OF THE RINGS: WAR IN THE NORTH

Type of RPG: Action

Just as some sci-fi fans only require Star Wars and a few FPS fans only need Call of Duty, some fantasy fans are Tolkienites. For them it really doesn’t get any better (unfortunately) than War In The North, a hack-n-slash title featuring the fight to take back Yorkshire Middle-Earth from the forces of Agandaur and Sauron. Low on plot, exploration and humour but high on orc-chopping and talking eagles, the co-op mode at the very least makes it worth trying out. At least until something more ambitious comes along, like Lego Lord of the Rings.

Alternatives: Lord of the Rings: The Third Age, Lord of the Rings Online


Gamer Type: THE GAMER WHO WANTS DIABLO AS AN FPS

Best Game: BORDERLANDS

Type of RPG: Action

Yes, clicking on things a million times from a top down perspective is fine, or even hammering an ‘X’ button from third-person. But what if you want first-person instead? And guns, lots of guns? Well then, that’s Borderlands for you. Don’t expect much more than death death death ooh a shiny new pistol with +3 incineration, but if you’ve got up to three friends and don’t mind ignoring all this “plot” and “engaging believable world” nonsense then there’s no better. At least until the sequel comes out.

Alternatives: Borderlands 2 (when it’s out)


Gamer Type: THE FIRST-PERSON-SHOOTER HACK-N-SLASHER

Best Game: DARK MESSIAH: MIGHT & MAGIC

Type of RPG: Action

You’ve probably noticed the contradiction in this type. “Wait, how can you have shooting with swordplay?” What we’re getting at is someone who wants the linear fun of a game like Half-Life 2 but mixed with a bit of Elder Scrolls, where it’s not just action but maybe a bit of stealth now and again, or some story moments. Linear, yes, but a decent amount of gameplay choice. Sound appealing? Well then, Dark Messiah: Might & Magic is for you.

Alternatives: Arx Fatalis, System Shock 2


Gamer Type: THE PIRATE

Best Game: RISEN 2: DARK WATERS

Type of RPG: Western

No, not that type of pirate, in which case any game on this list would be fine. I mean the actual RPG gamer who dreams of being a swashbucklin’ rogue, sailing the high seas raidin’ and pillagin’. Substitute “sailing the seas” with “getting killed by pigs a lot” and you’ve got the perfect pirate game! If you don’t count that Pirates of the Caribbean game Bethesda did.

Alternatives: that Pirates of the Caribbean game Bethesda did, Sid Meier’s Pirates!


Gamer Type: THE JRPG FAN WHO REALLY DOESN’T MIND TAKING HIS TIME

Best Game: FINAL FANTASY XIII

Type of RPG: Japanese

Is there a better example of the JRPG than the Final Fantasy series? Well, possibly Chrono Trigger. Or Earthbound. None however match the spectacle of a new FF numbered title. Yes, you have to have extreme patience with No. XIII (no, not the genetically-modified cat) as its tutorials stretch to the 20 hour mark, but your patience will pay off big time. Go on, take your time for once.

Alternatives: Most Final Fantasy games that aren’t VII


Gamer Type: THE GLUTTON FOR PUNISHMENT

Best Game: DARK SOULS

Type of RPG: Japanese/Western/Action (yep, I’d classify this under all three)

Dark Souls is hard. Really hard. You won’t believe how vastly, mind-boggingly hard it is. I mean, you may think it’s hard beating the Archdemon, but that’s just peanuts to Dark Souls. Challenging? Yes. Infuriating? Very. Addictive? Utterly. If you don’t mind being dead the majority of your time playing, this is the game for you. It will challenge you like no other.

Alternatives: Demon’s Souls, Legend of Grimrock


Gamer Type: THE MONSTER HUNTER

Best Game: DRAGON’S DOGMA

Type of RPG: Japanese/Western/Action (yep, again)

There’s a more obvious and more popular series for this gamer type, but you know the one thing that particular monster hunting series hasn’t done? Turned up on PC or Xbox 360. So that leaves us with Dragon’s Dogma. Capcom’s latest got a solid 8/10 in our review, with excellent combat and giant beasts of fantasy to hunt down in the most spectacular ways possible. It may be arguably the most overlooked game in this line-up, but if you’re hankering for some massive monsters to hunt and don’t own a handheld or Wii get this now!

Alternatives: that other series we’re not mentioning, Shadow of the Colossus


Gamer Type: THE NOT-TOO-JUDGMENTAL GAME OF THRONES FAN

Best Game: GAME OF THRONES

Type of RPG: Western

Game of Thrones: great books, great TV series, okayish videogame. There’s a compelling story here woven around the events of the first book/season, but you may have to wade through drab graphics and terrible voice-acting to find it. One for GRR Martin fans then… but don’t be too judgemental about it.

Alternatives: If you aretoo judgemental, The Witcher series


Gamer Type: THE OLD-SCHOOLER WHO LOVED EYE OF THE BEHOLDER

Best Game: LEGEND OF GRIMROCK

Type of RPG: Western

Not too many indie titles in this list I admit, but since this particular brand of RPG is so underrepresented these days I’m thankful Legend of Grimrock exists. Manage a group of adventurers you never see, move around a dungeon a tile at a time, and swipe at big snails until they die. No Beholders, but they’re not missed. If you miss this type of game you owe it to yourself to buy Grimrock.

Alternatives: buy an Amiga


Gamer Type: THE CRAFTY ARCHER

Best Game: TWO WORLDS II

Type of RPG: Western

Every one of these RPGs does something better than the others. Two Worlds II is great fun but is only really better than its compatriots in the fields of crafting and archery: hence “The Crafty Archer”. Do you like crafting and love archery? Well you’ll love Two Worlds II, from the makers of Car Hate Cheese Love magazine! (anyone get that Mitchell & Webb joke? No? Oh well…)

Alternatives: Skyrim’s pretty good in both departments too, I guess


Gamer Type: THE MONTY PYTHON FAN

Best Game: FABLE TRILOGY

Type of RPG: Western

Fable is a real hard RPG series to quantify, especially in terms of fans. I narrowed it down to anyone who’s ever laughed at Monty Python. A mad, distinctly British sense of humour turns a basic RPG series into something uniquely compelling. They’re also the polar opposite of Dark Souls - these are RPGs anyone can play and enjoy. Not quite dead, for sure.

Alternatives: Penny Arcade: On The Rain-Slick Precipice of Darkness, Anachronox


Gamer Type: THE NARRATOR

Best Game: BASTION

Type of RPG: Action

Another unique indie title we just had to include. A hack-n-slash action RPG certainly, but do you ever have the feeling you’re being watched and commented upon? And did you like it? Then congratulations, Bastion is the RPG for you. Its smooth commenter commenting on your every action is amazing, freaky, and drives you onwards in the way a regular action slasher wouldn’t. Oh yeah, baby.

Alternatives: Penny Arcade: On The Rain-Slick Precipice of Darkness


Gamer Type: THE JAPANESE ANIME SCI-FIER

Best Game: STAR OCEAN 4: THE LAST HOPE

Type of RPG: Japanese

There’s no reason Western developers (or just Bioware) should have the monopoly on sci-fi RPGs. What about a sci-fi story that plays out like Final Fantasy but with a more interesting battle mode? Well then, welcome to Star Ocean 4: The Last Hope. The story’s a little baffling for newcomers and the planets are a bit boring to traverse, but get into it and you’ll find an intriguing JRPG to discover. And it’s sci-fi, did I mention that?

Alternatives: Phantasy Star series


Gamer Type: THE GAMER WHO CRAVES DISAPPOINTMENT

Best Game: DRAGON AGE II

Type of RPG: Western

Do you desperately love to be disappointed? Do you desire to feel the crashing, burning sensation of an avalanche of hype falling to pieces around your ears? To watch the best RPG developer in the world piss away their franchise and their reputation in one quick sales-grab? Well then, Dragon Age II is the must-have game for you!

Alternatives: Deus Ex: Invisible War


Written by Chris Capel.

Comments

By nocutius (SI Elite) on Aug 03, 2012
nocutius
This is one impressive list, I like the way it's categorized.
By stealth20k (SI Newbie) on Aug 03, 2012
stealth20k
This is one of the worst articles on rpgs, Ive ever seen written

By putting action rpg, jrpg, and wrpg seperate

your falsely saying, secret of mana, ys, tales arent jrpgs, they are

jrpg and wrpg are just region things, they arent genres

you can have turn based or action jrpgs and no, jrpgs arent always turn based

western rpgs always have custmizable characters huh? mass effect deus ex, and so many more would like a word

This is the ultimate list? Its one of the worst Ive ever seen because the entries on an ultimate rpg guide should be good games, half of the games listed are utter garbage......
By unsilviu (SI Core) on Aug 03, 2012
unsilviu
You made an account just to say this? Wow I feel sad for you...

Oh, and WRPG and JRPG are different genres. I suggest watching this if you're still confused:

http://extra-credits.net/episodes/western-japanese-rpgs-part-1/

But I do have a problem with this list. If you're going to list Deus Ex, and age isn't a problem (KotOR), at least put the best game in the franchise there. Nothing compares to the original game.
By stealth20k (SI Newbie) on Aug 03, 2012
stealth20k
I made an account because I felt it was so out of line I had to say something

Oh wrpg and jrpg arent genres, no site categorizes games as such under the genre description

You want me to watch a video designed to be a joke?

Not to mention 80 percent of the games listed are garbage
By nocutius (SI Elite) on Aug 03, 2012
nocutius
JRPG is a well know term, I don't see the problem with it's use in the article.

The action category can be justified as well, Dark Messiah is a prime example. That's exactly how I used to describe it to people myself, an action RPG.
By stealth20k (SI Newbie) on Aug 03, 2012
stealth20k
I am not arguing whether the term exists but how its used.


As I said jrpgs can be action rpgs. You have no arguement saying ys, tales, mana, ect are not jrpgs and action rpgs

jrpg is just a region identifier, where the game was made.

action, strategy, turn based, dungeon those are genres
By nocutius (SI Elite) on Aug 03, 2012
nocutius
True jrpg can be an action rpg as the article itself points out in cases of Dark Souls and Dragon's Dogma.

I don't think the article is claiming that JRPG and WRPG are different genres, it just points out certain different characteristic that usually apply to or are attributed to either RPG and JRPG games.

The meaning of RPG itself is changing as the article points out as well so none of these definitions are cut into stone.
By stealth20k (SI Newbie) on Aug 03, 2012
stealth20k
They didnt point out that case.

The point is they were wrong, if your agreeing with me stop giving me so much grief..............


The point is there is no hard definition.............

By his own definition mass effect, deus ex wouldnt be the wrpgs we know them to be and action rpgs

they are regional identifiers thats it. They have no say on gameplay or characteristics
By nocutius (SI Elite) on Aug 03, 2012
nocutius
Sorry if you feel like i'm griefing you, that is not my intention at all.

The article does point it out in the case of Dark Souls and Dragon's Dogma.
..."Type of RPG: Japanese/Western/Action"

I agree that there is no hard definition to genres, but that applies to ANY media not just games, it's all a bit subjective. Subjective is not wrong, it's just subjective.

And there definitely are certain differences between Japanese and western RPG's that allow for making a direct distinction between the two. If nothing else the usually have a different graphics style and different types of characters, there's no moe in wrpg's.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Role-playing_video_game
Read under "Cultural differences"

Or at least that's how it used to be in general, definitions are changing but when somebody used to tell you a game was an JRPG you immediately got a certain image of it without even seeing it first.
By stealth20k (SI Newbie) on Aug 03, 2012
stealth20k
It doesnt point out anything.

It seemed to me the article writer, was caught in his own web of deceit

There are no differences. Oh I read that wiki alright

"Rowan Kaiser of Joystiq argues that many of the often mentioned differences between Eastern and Western games are stereotypes that are generally not true. Kaiser makes his case by pointing to the similarities between several Western titles (such as Lands of Lore, Betrayal at Krondor, and Dragon Age) and several classic Eastern titles (such as Final Fantasy and Phantasy Star), noting that these Western titles share a similar emphasis on linear storytelling, pre-defined characters, and, in some cases, "bright-colored" graphics."

Only an idiot who doesnt know rpgs thinks of an image, a real rpg gamer, knows it means nothing

"Things are obviously changing recently cause the Japanese gaming industry is trying to adapt to our tastes."

Not really if anything the west has started to adapt to japan especially on the rpg scene

Essentially what this article does a great job of is stereotyping. Falsely I might add.

jrpg and wrpg are just region terms, It has nothing to do with genre, or characteristics, or anything else.
By nocutius (SI Elite) on Aug 03, 2012
nocutius
Damn I might need some help, apparently i'm not doing such a good job :).

It's not the real point who is becoming more similar to who, but that the styles are converging which must mean that at some point there were at least some differences.

Perhaps i'm just not experienced enough with jrpg's as most of my gaming is done on the PC with only a smaller number of JRPG's played, but they immediately felt different to me.
The last one that i've played was Chantelise – A Tale of Two Sisters.

Perhaps I just stepped on those few landmines that are an exception to the rule.
By stealth20k (SI Newbie) on Aug 03, 2012
stealth20k
I am an rpg expert, when you linked that wiki, I was one of its founding authors.......

The styles are styles for a reason, they dont converge, never really have.........

There you go, now your telling me the truth, your a pc gamer..........

Ive been playing rpgs on all systems since the late 80's...have been importing rpgs from japan and buying western ones my entire life.


This is how it works

You have

rpg

then the regional identifiers of where something was made, whether japan, west, korea, wherever

then you have the genres ie action, turn based, strategy, ect
By stealth20k (SI Newbie) on Aug 03, 2012
stealth20k
This was also in the wiki

Some journalists and video game designers have questioned this cultural classification, arguing that the differences between Eastern and Western games have been exaggerated. In an interview held at the American Electronic Entertainment Expo, Japanese video game developer Tetsuya Nomura (who worked on Final Fantasy and Kingdom Hearts) emphasized that role-playing games should not be classified by country-of-origin, but rather described simply for what they are: RPGs.[69] Hironobu Sakaguchi, creator of Final Fantasy and The Last Story, noted that, while "users like to categorise" Japanese RPGs as "turn-based, traditional styles" and Western RPGs as "born from first-person shooters," there "are titles that don't fit the category," pointing to Chrono Trigger (which he also worked on) and the Mana games. He further noted that there have been "other games similar to the style of Chrono Trigger," but that "it's probably because the games weren't localised and didn't reach the Western audience."[70] Xeno series director Tetsuya Takahashi, in reference to Xenoblade Chronicles, stated that "I don’t know when exactly people started using the term 'JRPG,' but if this game makes people rethink the meaning of this term, I’ll be satisfied." The writer Jeremy Parish of 1UP.com states that "Xenoblade throws into high relief the sheer artificiality of the gaming community's obsession over the differences between" Western and Japanese RPGs, pointing out that it "does things that don't really fit into either genre. Gamers do love their boundaries and barriers and neat little rules, I know, but just because you cram something into a little box doesn't mean it belongs there."[71] Nick Doerr of Joystiq criticizes the claim that Japanese RPGs are "too linear," pointing out that non-linear Japanese RPGs are not uncommon.[72] Likewise, Rowan Kaiser of Joystiq points out that linear Western RPGs were common in the 1990s, and argues that many of the often mentioned differences between Eastern and Western games are stereotypes that are generally "not true" and "never was," pointing to classic examples from both genres.[
By nocutius (SI Elite) on Aug 03, 2012
nocutius
It would seem that I was messing with the wrong guy, linking to his own wiki article :).

I yield, please at least spare my family :P.
By stealth20k (SI Newbie) on Aug 03, 2012
stealth20k
I didnt actually write those parts.

If I did, they would probably have been even angrier.
By nocutius (SI Elite) on Aug 03, 2012
nocutius
Yea the anger part usually doesn't help when you're trying to get a point across :)
By stealth20k (SI Newbie) on Aug 03, 2012
stealth20k
I am not arguing the terms dont exist, of course they do. What I was trying to get across was the way this article uses them is ridiculous

we both agreed, this is not the ultimate rpg guide with so many bad choices

Id replace alot of those western rpgs with REALLY good japanese rpgs from this gen like radiant historia, zhp, valkyria, ect.
By unsilviu (SI Core) on Aug 03, 2012
unsilviu
stealth20k, extra creditz is not a joke video series. It's actually one of the most in-depth analyses of video games there is.

And the fact that you're an RPG anthusiast doesn't help here except that you're more likely to get into a useless semantics fight ;) The term JRPG has come to signify that Final Fantasy, turn-based style RPG, and also a specific over-the-top design aesthetic, as opposed to WRPG's. The fact that you don't agree means nothing if that's how it's used in the press. The very fact that controversy exists means that it's very scumbaggy for you to come here and state your point and insult those who are of a differing oppinion.

Also, I see that you've actually been blocked from WP for sockpuppetry. So, yeah...

Edit: I see that you've done this on a number of other sites. Again, you cannot control the vocabulary by logic, a jrpg is not an rpg developed in japan, but one similar to those originally made there. I again suggest the extra credits video, it will explain everything ;)
By stealth20k (SI Newbie) on Aug 03, 2012
stealth20k
It is a joke series, and LOL.

"JRPG has come to signify that Final Fantasy, turn-based style RPG, and also a specific over-the-top design aesthetic, as opposed to WRPG's."

Just because its come to mean that to stupid people, doesnt mean its right or even remotely true

the genre of final fantasy is turn based ( depends which one), rainbow moons genre is turn based too even though it was made in the west.........

I havent been banned anywhere.

A jrpg is one developed in japan. Thats it its not a genre

Go to any website where they have a database of games

and under genre:________

tell me if you will ever see j or wrpg fyi you wont ever
By unsilviu (SI Core) on Aug 03, 2012
unsilviu
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stealth20k
Also, your writing style and frequent errors make me seriously doubt you were involved in any serious capacity on an article as notable as RPG's. If that isn't you, then would you mind confirming that you were one of that article's founding fathers? :P

Please explain why you say EC is a joke series

You do not have to be stupid to change the meaning of a word. Languages evolve, it's what they do.
By stealth20k (SI Newbie) on Aug 03, 2012
stealth20k
A horse does not evolve to mean a goat.

I would take the word of devs any day, over jokesters like that
By unsilviu (SI Core) on Aug 03, 2012
unsilviu
Actually, they are involved in videogame production and they give advice to devs. So... yeah. And I see you didn't comment on your WP account. Don't worry, nocutius, your family is safe ;)
By stealth20k (SI Newbie) on Aug 03, 2012
stealth20k
No, they arent.

As I said please, before you respond again find any database for games online, and see what the genres, are. Sites, when they use the terms 9 times out of 10 are for region.

Whats hilarious is wrpgs 99 percent of the time are action rpgs, and somehow they are in a different category.
By unsilviu (SI Core) on Aug 03, 2012
unsilviu
Actually, you are talking out of your ass.
KotOR, for instance. Turn-based, yet clearly a different genre from FF. Not Action RPG. Yet defining for the genre it's in. WRPG's. I see you give no arguments for any of your claims.

I'm done here. It's telling when someone who is around 30 has the behavior and vocabulary of a 12 year-old on Xbox Live.

It's a stupid topic anyway, what got me riled up was you criticizing this well-written, quite funny in parts, informative article in a very crude way for it not conforming to your warped view of reality. Good job Mr. Capel, another good article ;)
By stealth20k (SI Newbie) on Aug 03, 2012
stealth20k
The only one ass talking is you

KOTOR is the same genre as ff ( some of them), its turn based. The regions of origin are different which is why one is a wrpg and the other a jrpg

The genres are exactly the same.

YS is the same genre as deus ex, but the regions are different yet again.........

So, your proven the fool, cant prove your statements, then scowl off like some 2 year old.

This article was well written and informative? Since when?

The only rpg genres, are those based off the gameplay, turn based rpg, action rpg, strategy rpg, dungeon crawling rpg, ect

thats it.

Now, if you behave I will educate you on rpgs further
By Gale47 (SI Core Veteran) on Aug 03, 2012
Gale47
FOR GOD'S SAKE, ENOUGH ALREADY!
You, my dear stealthy friend, are annoying as hell. Go be smart somewhere else.
By stealth20k (SI Newbie) on Aug 04, 2012
stealth20k
Sorry but education has to happen. Its not like I started this. I stated my opinion, and then other people got insecure and had to fight.
By unsilviu (SI Core) on Aug 04, 2012
unsilviu
Let's just ignore him. If he was blocked from Wikipedia, and lied about editing there, then we might as well assume it's impossible to hold a rational conversation with him.
By Gale47 (SI Core Veteran) on Aug 04, 2012
Gale47
Education? What kind of bloody education is this? You are not giving out anything that somehow changes my view of gaming world (you seem to think you do) or even anything about this article. Please, stop acting like a child.

@unsilviu: I was just thinking the same thing.
By stealth20k (SI Newbie) on Aug 04, 2012
stealth20k
@unsilviu

I was never blocked, nor lied about anything. Way to deflect when your wrong
By Chosen_One (SI Elite) on Aug 05, 2012
Chosen_One
No Dragon Age II!!! Its horrible!
By unsilviu (SI Core) on Aug 05, 2012
unsilviu
I'm not sure if you're being ironical, chosen, since DA2 is on the list :P
By nocutius (SI Elite) on Aug 05, 2012
nocutius
For the gamer that craves disappointment, that is one nice poke at the game :P
By stealth20k (SI Newbie) on Aug 05, 2012
stealth20k
dragon age II is a representative of all western rpgs
By Gale47 (SI Core Veteran) on Aug 08, 2012
Gale47
Facepalm.