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My New PC Build - Please leave comments:)
Posted: 04/15/2011 22:30 by herodotusComments: 27
Okay so I finally have given in and am going to tank my Windows XP-based rig (with a P5K MoBo and HD 4850). Have plonked down $1000 for this build:

•AMD PHENOM II X4 Quad Core 955 CPU, 3.2GHz (125W), 8MB Cache
•Corsair 8GB PC-10600 DDR3 1333Mhz RAM (2 X 2G)
•2Tb SATA II Hard Disk Drive + Additional 500G HDD
•AM3 MB, DDR3, PCI-E 2.0x 16, SATA 3, ATX
•AMD HD 6850 PCI-E 2.1 1GB 256-bit GDDR5, 775/4000MHz, Dual DVI/ HDMI
•22X Dual Format DVD Burner
•Integrated AC97 3D Stereo Sound
•Antec VSK-2000 - Black Mid-Tower Case, 0.8mm SECC steel, 1x 120mm fan
•600W Ultra Quite Power Supply
•Realtek 10/100 RJ45 Network
•Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit


22" Monitor, Logitech MX518 Mouse, Razer Lycosa keyboard

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By Eversor (SI Elite) on 04/16/2011 11:39
Eversor
I think that you could get the Phenom II X6 Hexa-core for not too much more. Besides that, a nVidia GTX 580 would be great also. Lot more $$$ though.
By FoolWolf (SI Elite) on 04/16/2011 15:18
FoolWolf
Nice rig. AMD fan eh? Personally I stick with Intel cores for now...
By herodotus (SI Herodotus) on 04/16/2011 23:40
herodotus
I prefer Intel myself, as many of the Sims I play don't support AMD very well and often clash with the Catalyst drivers for the GPU. I have the option of going with the following steup, but the GTX 550Ti sits behind the HD 6850 quite substantially in many benchmarks.

•Intel i7-950 Quad Core 3.06 GHz, 8MB Cache, LGA1366
•Corsair 8GB (4x 2Gb) (1333MHz) DDR3 RAM
•2TB HDD - SATA II 3.0Gbs, 32MB
•GF GTX 550Ti SONIC PCI-E 2.0 1GB DDR5 192-bit, DVI,VGA, HDMI, Fan
•Antec Dark Fleet DF-30 - Gaming Case, 2.5" Fleet-Swap drive on the top
•650W MEGA POWER ECO Series Power Supply
•12x Blu-ray/DVD Combo Drive
•Intel X58, DDR3 2000, PCI-Ex16, SATAII, SATA3, USB3.0 Mainboard
•Microsoft Windows 7- Home Premium 64-bit

By herodotus (SI Herodotus) on 04/16/2011 23:45
herodotus
I'd also have to upgrade the PSU to a 750 Watt and there again I am looking at a price rise I hadn't factored-in. Too easy to get carried away to find the perfect "Beast", which I don't need.
I could easily spend another grand to get there, but that's something I can ill-afford. If I still had the know-how to build a rig myself I would, but aside from replacing certain components I am not confident in doing so (haven't built a PC from the case-up myself since 1995 - the i466).
By Kres (SI Elite) on 04/17/2011 15:26
Kres
Yep that surely is a beast! Reminds me I need to do an upgrade myself as well. Didn't do that in years.
By Kres (SI Elite) on 04/17/2011 15:27
Kres
How big is the difference between the new and the old configuration? Hm or you didn't make the buy yet?
By herodotus (SI Herodotus) on 04/17/2011 21:12
herodotus
Now have:
Asus P5K MoBo (basic)
Intel E8400 3.0GHz
Radeon HD 4850 1GB
3 GB DDR2 (666MHz) RAM
300 GB HDD
Windows XP 32-bit Home Edition

I'm going with the first setup and have paid for it. The HD 6850 is just so much more powerful than the GTX 550Ti in every benchmark, tho when I can I will upgrade to an IE7 and a HD 6990.
By herodotus (SI Herodotus) on 04/17/2011 21:13
herodotus
...or the GTX 590 if cheap enough.
By Kres (SI Elite) on 04/17/2011 21:21
Kres
Your old config is stronger then my current one! That's intel C2D E8400? I got E6600.

They say that with the newer CPUs Windows load magicaly fast. Among other things course. But that in perticular sounds like fun.
By FoolWolf (SI Elite) on 04/17/2011 22:12
FoolWolf
The AMD GFX card vs GeForce is tricky. I was beating my head against the wall deciding between a GeForce Asus 560TI 900 MHz OC or the Radeon Saphire 6950...
In the end the 560TI card won me over due to the extra power for tesselation and certain titles were it simply performed better. The Sapphire card was better in many trials as well, but in most those games - both cards had a high definition setting and squeezing out well over 60 FPS and around that amount - you won't notice on my 22" 60 MHz TFT anyway...
By herodotus (SI Herodotus) on 04/17/2011 22:32
herodotus
The HD 6850 poutperforms the GTX 550Ti in every benchmark, but I may lean toward the latter or perhaps the 560Ti just for the Cuda and PhysX alone. Depends on pricing, and I do prefer Intel and Nvidia at present, as they are the best supported by gaming devs.
By herodotus (SI Herodotus) on 04/17/2011 22:32
herodotus
On my 22" screen, the minor improvements by going bigger and better than that won't show either.
By herodotus (SI Herodotus) on 04/17/2011 23:21
herodotus
I am going to try and change my order to the following (before the order goes to workshop:

•Intel i7-950 Quad Core 3.06 GHz, 8MB Cache, LGA1366
•Corsair 8GB (4x 2Gb) (1600MHz) DDR3 RAM
•2TB HDD - SATA II 3.0Gbs, 32MB
•GF GTX 560Ti SONIC PCI-E 2.0 1GB DDR5 192-bit, DVI,VGA, HDMI, Fan
•Antec Dark Fleet DF-30 - Gaming Case, 2.5" Fleet-Swap drive on the top
•750W MEGA POWER ECO Series Power Supply
•12x Blu-ray/DVD Combo Drive
•Intel X58, DDR3 2000, PCI-Ex16, SATAII, SATA3, USB3.0 Mainboard
•Microsoft Windows 7- Home Premium 64-bit
By FoolWolf (SI Elite) on 04/18/2011 07:24
FoolWolf
Now that is a nice rig! :)
You have more or less the same build I have now. I got three HD's but right now I'm trying to find out if there is a way to get SSD drives and not becoming broke at the same time.
By herodotus (SI Herodotus) on 04/18/2011 18:25
herodotus
Thanks mate, I have looked at so many benchmarks over the last week my eyes are watering, but the GTX 560Ti has shown good FPS in every DX 9, 10 & 11 game tested. I'm particularly pleased that I upgraded the speed of the RAM, got a stronger PSU and the Gaming Case will be well suited to future upgrades.
Next, a 30" monitor:)
By FoolWolf (SI Elite) on 04/18/2011 18:31
FoolWolf
LOL! Yeah, I'm looking for a Benq Pro 23" Monitor now, has gotten great reviews ... ah, there is never a shortage of stuff you wish you had money to buy ;)
By herodotus (SI Herodotus) on 04/18/2011 19:14
herodotus
I have been using Benq's for years now (cheap and excellent product), and truthfully I'll find it hard not to buy a 24" in the coming week (the 560 Ti actually performs better at 1920x1080 than 1680x1080). As you say, there is no limit to the spending spree...except the Bank manager (if there were any left here, that is).
By Eversor (SI Elite) on 04/21/2011 23:48
Eversor
@ Herodotus. That's it man. Those new specs are much better than your original ones.
By herodotus (SI Herodotus) on 04/22/2011 00:20
herodotus
Got the PC yesterday arvo and have been installing and benchmarking all night...whew. Just tried two games that struggled at Minimum settings on the old rig, and they run smooth as butter now. It's amazing how quiet the system is, with fans and vents everywhere. Still familiarising myself with Win 7, and that will take a bit of time. Easter will be busy, as the 2TB hard drive can happily occupy just about everything on my shelf at present.
By herodotus (SI Herodotus) on 04/22/2011 00:23
herodotus
Tho they substituted the Intel MoBo for an ASRock X58 Extreme. I'll have to phone on Wed to follow that one up.
By Eversor (SI Elite) on 04/22/2011 00:28
Eversor
Is this the Intel/nVidia computer? Also, what games did you test?
By herodotus (SI Herodotus) on 04/22/2011 01:50
herodotus
Yes it is:
Intel i7-950 Quad Core 3.06 GHz, 8MB Cache, LGA1366
GF GTX 560Ti SONIC PCI-E 2.0 1GB DDR5 192-bit
Corsair 8GB (4x 2Gb) (1600MHz) DDR3 RAM
Win 7 64-bit

Tested it on "DCS: A-10C: Warthog" and "IL-2: Cliffs of Dover" (both notoriously high spec). Also tested it on "DoW II", "Crysis", "Battlefield: Bad Company 2" and "Total War: SHOGUN 2" - all maxed out. Not a hitch...so far. Looking forward to DirectX 11 support in the latter.
By Eversor (SI Elite) on 04/23/2011 17:54
Eversor
It's great that you got Intel. That's who I am going with when I upgrade in about another 2 years.
By HELLKNIGHT13 (SI Elite) on 04/23/2011 19:37
HELLKNIGHT13
I love my AMD and that a nice GPC setup list that I see I know my sons gpc is setup all most the same setup + you will save a lot of $$$ over intel ya may be just a little slower but over all you will not be abull to tell if you are not runing bench macks by eye looks and fells the same .But all comes down to what people like or not intel over amd but to me they all do what we like so run with what you have for $$$ the only thing I can say is go with what you fell you like or are more comforbull with work with or on if you run intel more then you are going to know how to fix it when you have a prob the same gos for AMD like i said all in what you are more comf with.If I whent with intel I would have payed $4000.00 more to have the same as my amd setup cost me $4000.00 to make a good amd would of cost me $8000.00 for the same intel .I say this just from all the home work I did on my gpc was looking in to going back to intel but to make the same intel as my amd well you know so all and all comes down to how you look at it do you want people to say dam or run things a gpc that you are happy with when you play your games it will all be good intel or amd that all I care about the game works and having fun with the good friends on it :)
By herodotus (SI Herodotus) on 04/23/2011 19:58
herodotus
I agree that "bang=for-buck" Intel and Nvidia can't yet match AMD, however the GTX 560Ti outperforms the HD 6850 by quite a substantial margin (and the price difference is marginal). Going for HD 6970 was far beyond my price range, but Nvidia can't match that card yet at all.
The only drawback is lack of PhysX with AMD, but that's just eye candy that many don't miss. The AMD cards of course support multi-display screens whereas Nvidia doesn't (true multi-monitor support I'm referring to).
So far I'm happy that I've gone with Intel an Nvidia...paid a bit more but the performance is worth it. Be a while before Nvidia can price match AMD, but Intel I'd say never will.
By HELLKNIGHT13 (SI Elite) on 04/23/2011 20:03
HELLKNIGHT13
One more thing go with a good gaming MoB may cost more but in the long run the mother B needs to keep up in the end if the MB can hold up to what you put on it you will run in to more then you was hoping for people talk every thing about the parts ya the MB need to hold all thows parts .all the post I have seen on oh his thing don't run what it says it should I lol no you just did not do your home work that way it did not work on gpc so don't all ways go by what is sayed on the post if you know parts you get they will work if you get a Ati MB and put a Invd card in it well no bearner there ya or get ram that is for a intel MB on a AMD mb well you know how that will run so it's a no braner just do some home work buy ones and have fun don't do home work and have fun spending a lot of time posting it did not work trust me how meny people trash a good part and people do not buy it just becase some one don't know what the are talking about so do the home work and lol at the post you see you will go dam they say they have tec know how tec know not a thing ;)
By HELLKNIGHT13 (SI Elite) on 04/23/2011 20:13
HELLKNIGHT13
Killer ya m8 the ups and downs on every thing out there ones has things you like but don't have the omg that you want or is not the one you want to go with so hard to find that perf setup your looking for the unly down side of a new bd