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Anonymous accuses Sony of bringing down PSN themselves
Posted: 24.04.2011 07:33 by Comments: 43
Hacker group Anonymous is stately flatly that they are not responsible for the PlayStation Network outage. They even accuse Sony of being the source of PSN's problems, and blaming hackers to hide their own incompetence.

In a YouTube video, the Anonymous rep accuses, "A more likely explanation (for the outages) is that Sony is taking advantage of Anonymous' previous ill-will towards the company to distract users from the fact that the outage is actually an internal problem with the company's servers."

You can check out the video statement below.

Source: Gamasutra
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Comments

By SirRoderick (SI Elite) on Apr 24, 2011
SirRoderick
Then again they would be saying that if they did it, to maximise damage to Sony.
By Kiam99 (SI Veteran Member) on Apr 24, 2011
Kiam99
This is getting boring to hear about...
By SirRoderick (SI Elite) on Apr 24, 2011
SirRoderick
Kind of....still better than the bloody Royal wedding.
By Xyfer117 (SI Core) on Apr 24, 2011
Xyfer117
@SirRod - AGREED! sick of hearing about the wedding myself! Anyway I personally think Anonymous didn't do it I think they would admit it if they did
By unsilviu (SI Core) on Apr 24, 2011
unsilviu
That sounds like an artificial voice, and it's damn good.
By JonahFalcon (SI Elite) on Apr 24, 2011
JonahFalcon
Of course it's artificial: it's an anonymous voice. Geddit?

I think the credit card info was cracked on Wednesday and Sony since shut it down and is trying to find a way to protect that data.
By VHugoSama (SI Core) on Apr 24, 2011
VHugoSama
This sucks I don't care whose fault is, I want PSN back online.
By herodotus (SI Herodotus) on Apr 24, 2011
herodotus
Sony, Microsoft, "Anonymous"; whoever it is - the result is the same, and everyone's going to say "I didn't do it" (bit like the GFC).
I personally doubt it is the hacker group, and look more to Sony (or even M$) for the cause.
I'd say the PS3 and PSN, when written about in technology histories will be regarded as failures.
By crossover (SI Veteran Newbie) on Apr 24, 2011
crossover
How is the PS3 a failure?
By herodotus (SI Herodotus) on Apr 24, 2011
herodotus
Hasn't lived up to it's full potential, and really is just a highly priced Blu-Ray player with overly highly-price games and PSN content. The PS2 was a much better console.
By SirRoderick (SI Elite) on Apr 24, 2011
SirRoderick
I like the PS3 for one. And the games. And I think the pricing is acceptable. Also I think a free online service is completely worth it.

The xbox is the one that's ACTUALLY highly-priced since you can't use one of it's main functions without a bloody subscription. You're bleeding money continually with that thing.

The blu-ray playing is also quite handy.
By herodotus (SI Herodotus) on Apr 24, 2011
herodotus
You may be right, Roderick as my son loves his PS3. However I point to the example of the pricing of the DLC for "Co: BO" - $24 for PS3, $14 for PC. I'm not sure what the 360 rates are, but that's steep (particularly as I had to pay for it:D).
By SirRoderick (SI Elite) on Apr 24, 2011
SirRoderick
Well a comparison between any console and PC is ridiculous, obviously the PC smashes them completely on every possible level including ALL of the infinitely many parallel realities.

Me saying the PS3 is bettter than the xbox is kind of like saying that a Porche 911 is a more fun car than a fiat Panda...obviously you still want an Arial atom or a Bugatti Veyron rather than the Porche.
By SirRoderick (SI Elite) on Apr 24, 2011
SirRoderick
And how the hell did you get that title?
By BoneArc (SI Elite) on Apr 24, 2011
BoneArc
Guys ... How the hell did a HACKER Title become a PC OR CONSOLE debate .... plz stick with Anonymous vs Sony ... i believe anonymous , and for what its worth .... they are Real people who dont get payed to do crap like this . So why would they lie about it ?
By K3Spice (SI Core) on Apr 25, 2011
K3Spice
Anonymous would of taken credit for it... It was probably an internal error or an outsider of anonymous...
By JonahFalcon (SI Elite) on Apr 25, 2011
JonahFalcon
Or Sony tried fixing PSN and fucked up royally. Laptops and their exploding batteries show Sony isn't the best at this sort of stuff :p.
By herodotus (SI Herodotus) on Apr 25, 2011
herodotus
An in other news, Norio Ohga, a onetime opera singer who plunged into consumer electronics, shaped the development of the compact disc, and rose to become chairman and chief executive of the Sony Corporation, died on Saturday in Tokyo. He was 81. The cause was multiple organ failure. PSN seems to have the same problem.
However, all due respects to the former Sony boss.
By Revan (SI Elite) on Apr 25, 2011
Revan
"We do not forgive, we do not forget. You should have expected us"
LOL! Wow! That does it, my new official title for this 'group' is now Gaynonymous. They've definitely earned it!
And last I heard, PSN being down has nothing to do with hackers. According to Patrick Seybold (senior director of Sony's corporate communications and social media), Sony is:
"re-building our system to further strengthen our network infrastructure".
And well, you can read the rest here if you want:
http://blog.us.playstation.com/2011/04/23/latest-update-for-psnqriocity-services/
I think that if there was a hacker out there good enough to hack into Sony, then Sony also has a few that are about a 100x better than some kids who are making threats from their parents basement.
By K3Spice (SI Core) on Apr 25, 2011
K3Spice
Sony wouldn't hire hackers.... They don't need them... They do need people who are skilled in adding protection to their systems though. I think you have been watching to many movies.... You don't beat a hacker with a hacker... You beat a hacker with better protection...

Revan this article is clearing up what one might assume if you put all the pieces together. Anonymous says they will hack sony - PSN crashes a little while after. Anonymous is stating they did not bring PSN down...
By SirRoderick (SI Elite) on Apr 25, 2011
SirRoderick
Point is that hackers are often best at making said protection.
By BoneArc (SI Elite) on Apr 25, 2011
BoneArc
True . But What Really Happens is that they Protect The Servers from OTHER hackers .... if they find out someone has hacked Into their Systems , the hacker And the protection Technicians Should Either Try to kick the hacker from the server or try to Find his IP which is Highly Unlikely .
By PowerJack (SI Elite) on Apr 25, 2011
PowerJack
Dont care, but its still funny.
By Kres (SI Elite) on Apr 25, 2011
Kres
@Roderick +1
By JonahFalcon (SI Elite) on Apr 25, 2011
JonahFalcon
@K3Spice: The best locksmiths are lockpickers. It's an age old saying.
By PyrettaBlaze (SI Veteran Member) on Apr 25, 2011
PyrettaBlaze
Whatever the problem is, it better be fixed soon. Recently got addicted to playing online lol. Oh well, pretty soon all this "Anonymous vs. Sony" is gonna wear out. Can't wait till this is over. Like the Royal Wedding, it is getting old pretty quick.
By herodotus (SI Herodotus) on Apr 25, 2011
herodotus
The Australian Federal Police Cyber Unit are fully staffed with once criminally-mined hackers, now working against their former brethren. Without them, the AFP were floundering (no surprises there).
As the head of the unit stated:
"The only way to stop internet fraud and the destructive performances by Hackers completely, is to close down the internet. Period!".
And no one wants that.

EIT: Linux has 11% of the OS market share in Australia and has no problems with hackers and spam bots (even Apple MAC is pretty well hacker-free here). However as it becomes more popular that may change.
By Eversor (SI Elite) on Apr 25, 2011
Eversor
Sony is simply using Anonymous as scape goats while they do what Revan was talking about.
By herodotus (SI Herodotus) on Apr 26, 2011
herodotus
@Revan
I've been to a Hacker's home (a real hacker), and he's no Mummy's boy. The setup is over-the-top with PC tecnology far exceeding anything available on the market legally. These guys are no joke, and many cruise neighborhoods picking up open (and locked) networks and hacking them, along with their passwords within a minute (all details downloaded).
If they wish to target a company, like Sony as a group...watch out. The target is going down.
They're dangerous, and I wouldn't understimate them at all.
As for credit card fraud, they just get "mules" (like drug couriers) to open a false bank account, download the money from stolen bank details, deposit them into the hacker's real account, then shut down. The "mule" is often arrested, but gets off with a tap on the wrist. The hacker moves on and advertises for new "mules" (they pay well, the advert is legal, so attract a lot of people).
They are very, very rarely caught and even then receive only a minor fine and go straight back to 'business'.
By K3Spice (SI Core) on Apr 26, 2011
K3Spice
^This is very true.

JonahFalcon Yes, that is true. I kind of meant in my comment that you don't hack the person who is hacking you. Along with sony doesn't hire people to hack other people. They do hire people to hack their own servers (to find flaws in security).
By Revan (SI Elite) on Apr 26, 2011
Revan
Honestly, I couldn't really care less what Sony or any of the hackers do. As long as they keep out of my business.
One thing that does surprise me though, is how much support Anonymous is getting. Including from SI.
So now I ask you guys this once again: How exactly are hackers Better than pirates?
I remember seeing a Lot of hate towards pirates when there was news of Crysis 2 being pirated.
And yet you have No problem with Anonymous's threats, who could easily hack into your network and Steal your personal information. And most likely has at some point or another.
And you guys have no problems with this? It's all good? Sony just 'deserves' this?
By K3Spice (SI Core) on Apr 26, 2011
K3Spice
Revan I don't support them. I think threats are a useless method of getting what you want. Why do you stereotype hackers. Just because they can hack does not mean that they have hacked into someones personal information. Pirating games means that the developers will make less money from PC gamers, thus we PC gamers get lower quality games.
By ColinMc (SI Veteran Member) on Apr 26, 2011
ColinMc
WTF!!????//!!
W'n'Shis!!!//!//???
By herodotus (SI Herodotus) on Apr 26, 2011
herodotus
Revan, the difference between Pirates and Hackers is quite wide. Pirates affect sales figures for media (be it television, film, music or games) and are harshly dealt with by the law when caught.
Hackers are dangerous and often perform highly criminal acts against individuals and organisations with very little punishment.
To me Hackers are far worse, but far less easily monitored or controlled. No individual is safe fro them, and nor are big companies.
I don't believe anyone here is supporting "Anonymous" (that would be foolish), as it's a brawl between that group and Sony, while we sit on the sidelines (everyone loves to see big corporations taking a "hit"). They might be very smart guys in the hacker group, but to me they are all a bunch of smart arses. Catch 'em, spank that arse and then hire them. Only way to beat them.
By SirRoderick (SI Elite) on Apr 26, 2011
SirRoderick
What Hero said, with less spanking and more shooting wooden pellets at testes.
By Revan (SI Elite) on Apr 27, 2011
Revan
Well, to me a hacker is a lot worse than pirate too.
But either way I'm starting to get real tired of all this Anonymous vs. Sony vs. George Hotz crap.
Hackers are full of shit, corporations are full of shit.
And Hotz is So full of it I don't think our planet has enough room for all of his retarded bullshit.
I wish they would all just cut the crap and let me game in peace!
By herodotus (SI Herodotus) on Apr 27, 2011
herodotus
Hang on Revan, mate...here's a shovel:)
By Revan (SI Elite) on Apr 27, 2011
Revan
I was thinking more along the lines of a Bulldozer. Way too much Crap for a shovel to handle! :P
By Eversor (SI Elite) on Apr 29, 2011
Eversor
By SirRoderick (SI Elite) on Apr 29, 2011
SirRoderick
Yes.....that is a bulldozer.
By Eversor (SI Elite) on Apr 29, 2011
Eversor
I thought so. Pretty big picture I must add.
By Eversor (SI Elite) on Apr 29, 2011
Eversor
That's good.