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At least now we know the delay is not due to making the PC version better....just want to make sure everyone buys it on console before PC. Fukm.

I honestly do not understand the meaning of these delays. Ubisoft, get serious.

It's to get everyone to buy the console releae first then save their dosh for a couple of weeks and buy the PC version as well. Very dirty business Uberslag are in.

Isn't that the same with most multi-platform releases? At least I'm under that impression.

No, most release at the same time. Besides, Ubisoft have claimed in the past that they have done this to "work on" the PC version, when they don't at all.

Now lets see - Ubisoft not liking PC gamers=true - PC Gamers still buy Ubi titles? PC Gamers = stupid?

Seriously guys, give 'em the finger...

Yes, FoolWolf, but Ubisoft has some very interesting titles. Such as Splinter Cell, Rainbow Six or Assassin's Creed. And for the upcoming year we'll get the Watch Dogs.
I'm going to play those games, and it really isn't important for me who puts them on the market, as long as they are awesome.

Well, I guess thats the difference - I don't care how interesting their titles are since I always find something else to keep me occupied - but I seldom go to someone that treats me worse then Ubisoft and the only way we can get Ubisoft to actually start treating PC gamers more fair - is by using the only power we have - on-line ravings paired with closing our wallets and locking away our VISA's...

That might lead to them not releasing PC titles at all. It's a double-edged sword.

If they don't release PC titles at all - I won't miss a thing - and it opens up space for others more devoted PC gaming companies to fill the gap. Progress is always a balance of risking to loose to get some gain. But in order to actually move forward, we must be willing to let go of the now simply because this is what we are used to. I say we deserve better and thus I say that loosing Ubisoft as a PC developer is worth the risk. It is of course so much more simple for me since I don't play Ubisoft games so I'm already considered them lost. :)

You're being selfish here, wolfy :P You don't care about their games, so you would love to see them gone for the advantages you'd get. But their games, as Gale mentioned, are really good. If anything, we should buy their PC games, which would raise investor awareness to take the stick out of the management's ass and beat it with it.

Wolf, how can you filter out your games by their developer and/or publisher? Isn't that a tad bit shortsighted? No offense, mate.
You know, you ain't gonna be playing something that the publisher made but something that was created by programers and designers who don't really have much to do with the game's actual publisher.
Besides, you can't say that Ubi neglects us PC gamers in all cases. Rayman Origins was a really great game that was perfectly optimized on the PC and came out the same time as it's console counterpart. And try to remember what was the situation between PC platform and Ubisoft some three of four years ago. You'll see that it's much better now, and I believe it'll only get better.
Be optimistic, friend.

Granted they have some good franchises in their stable, but as of the last few years with each new release in that franchise the franchise is weaker, or in some cases dies (the "Silent Hunter" franchise being the most obvious, with "IL2" right after it).

unsilviu: I don't care about their games because I made up my mind long time ago. I won't pay to get abused and I don't pay for being called a pirate and I don't like the general Ubisoft way forward - so around Assassins Creed I decided to not go for Ubisoft any-more. Hence - I no longer care - I already made my sacrifice some time ago. And of course I'm being selfish - I play games for my own leisure and escapism - not somebody else's ;)

Gale: Easy - just keep reading sites like this and all other sites. Like me, programmers and developers have a choice - if their choice is according to me the wrong one - so be it. It is like dictatorships - take Syria - I do believe there are plenty of nice and decent people their - but I don't by Syria goods right now since that would ultimately benefit a dictatorship that is bad for most people. Choices. Oh and I can say they neglect us because Rayman is ONE game - not the general praxis and Rayman targets more casual gamers and grownups via kids - and if more "older" parents get their kids crying about a game not working - riot. Simple.
Oh I do remember and I still see it happen - it gets worse - we are not nearly on a better position than at three years ago. I'm old enough to say that being optimistic is only letting yourself up for disappointment when dealing with peole that are happy to strong arm people that don't react and just ass-up for everything they are forced to accept for a quick fix. Mind you - if you like Ubisoft and their games - keep playing and have fun - but me - I don't like them and I don't want to have that kind of business getting to be the norm. Hence - the stand.

If Ubisoft didn't have good franchises, IP's etc - they would be gone already for the PC crowd - no questions asked - but people pay them money - so there is a business to be made and while that business is allowed to grow on stomping on consumer rights - of course they will continue doing so...

people don't like to be treated bad but sure like their so called "image" and their wealth...

when the devs took their "wrong choices" as foolwolf puts it. they only cared for their profits not for the fun and achievement for making the game but for the money and power some of these gamers took on a role to fight(aka youre average pirate :P yes their has been pirating before but this boosted it),those who just complain like here XD and those who wanted to keep their gamer "image" and like sheep followed the wolf in its lair...

while pirating grew the devs had to increase their grip and thus causing their still loyal consumers to be lets say "exploited" thus they had to pay more for DRMs and other crap because of this devs noticed how people would blindly follow them and buy their stuff thus power corrupts and you get this "on the factory line" made games who are made rapidly and are the same(clone) in many ways

causing more pirating(because people don't like to pay for something overpriced) so the devs notice this and are now trying these consoles because theirs an appearant "less" pirating on them which is wrong but in consoles it can be managed more and better then on the pc sinds it offers more freedom