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Controversial torture interrogation from Splinter Cell: Black List removed
Posted: 31.01.2013 05:25 by JonahFalcon Comments: 13
UbiSoft has announced that a controversial torture scene has been removed in which a player could shove a knife into a suspect's clavicle, which allowed them to twist it to gain data. Players could then either kill or free the suspect.

According to producer Andrew Wilson, "Definitely we are not going to see when the game's coming out that there are torture scenes in it. That scene is not there anymore. I've not really heard anyone say they loved it…"

Wilson also claimed that the scene was not indicative of the game's tone, and that seeing it with no context made the game seem "like pretty tough material."

"We've scaled a lot of that back, and as we've gone through the process of development there are always things that you feel are not working as well. Every game does this, and cuts certain things," he added.

Splinter Cell: Black List is due to be released on PC, Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3, and has no release date.
Source: GameSpot

Comments

By danfreeman (SI Core) on Jan 31, 2013
danfreeman
C`mon we`re not kids, we can take stuff like this,the last splinter cell game also had torture scenes,they were called interrogation scenes but you don`t go up to a guy and slam his face in a wall just to ask him "Hey,how you doing?"
By JonahFalcon (SI Elite) on Jan 31, 2013
JonahFalcon
Has nothing to do with being M-rated.

The issue about torture is the efficacy. Simply put: it doesn't work.
By SirRoderick (SI Elite) on Jan 31, 2013
SirRoderick
I don't think that had anything to do with why they cut it Jonah -_-

They cut it because people didn't like it, too brutal I suppose. Might have been a lack of testicular fortitude if you ask me.
By JonahFalcon (SI Elite) on Jan 31, 2013
JonahFalcon
Or maybe it just didn't fit in with the game.
By SirRoderick (SI Elite) on Jan 31, 2013
SirRoderick
You are free to draw that conclusion :)
By nocutius (SI Elite) on Jan 31, 2013
nocutius
The only thing that matters is if this scene would be helping or hurting sales :)
By Hammerjinx (SI Veteran Member) on Jan 31, 2013
Hammerjinx
Torture works. Everybody breaks. The trouble is, before then it's very hard to tell if someone is an expert, or really doesn't know the answers. Torturing someone into giving you info in a short time is very hit and miss, especially if they give you misinformation. If you have a few weeks up your sleeve, you can be pretty sure of getting the info you need from most people. Make them tell you the story in different ways, say it in reverse order, cross reference with previous results. Do not let them sleep.

Torturing a confession out of someone is pointless though. You get a lot of false positives. They'll typically just tell you they did it after a while.

Torture is ok in games and movies, but people generally don't want to be the torturer. It's an ikky business. While seeing it happen or having it happen to you is confronting and gritty, and people could probably be ok with playing a character that tortures someone in a cutscene (no pun), actually controlling the torture in anything like a realistic way would be just a bit too offputting for most ppl. Games should be fun. Intense is ok, harrowing is not.
By nocutius (SI Elite) on Jan 31, 2013
nocutius
Totally, I don't think I'd feel OK after playing the bad guy to such an extent.
By danfreeman (SI Core) on Jan 31, 2013
danfreeman
Very good point Hammerjinx and very well explained,indeed i would rather not do such a thing even in a game but i guess that would depend on how far the torture goes,for example there was a torture scene in FarCry 3(i won`t say too much about it due to spoilers),it was short but showed how wrong it is to do something like that,if they were to make their scene similar to that one i think we would be fine.
By herodotus (SI Herodotus) on Jan 31, 2013
herodotus
I don't see this is bad, particularly with Americans running off the rails at the moment killing each other for all sorts of wacked-out reasons. We don't need kiddies to be learning how to painfully torture one another, and I believe it's a good decision by Ubisoft.
It may be realistic, but think of the gamer demographic for these games - it's not the adults I'm worrying about (although some scare the hell, out of me).
By the_fourth_horseman (SI Veteran Member) on Jan 31, 2013
the_fourth_horseman
Anyhow: is there an _indication_ as to when this one is going to hit te shelves?
By herodotus (SI Herodotus) on Jan 31, 2013
herodotus
if it isn't delayed yet again, which it might be now, August 20th in the United States and August 23rd in the UK for PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360 this year is the expected launch date. I guess PC and Nintendo will be the same, or not long after.
By the_fourth_horseman (SI Veteran Member) on Feb 01, 2013
the_fourth_horseman
Ok great. Can't wait!